owned a pub and were always amused by new people, taking up pub leases because they liked to drink a lot of beer, saying, "Making money from a pub is a piece of piss - hahn auf, hahn zu, und du bist reich!"

Roughly translated, tap open, tap shut, and you're rich.

Running a pub is a huge amount of all sorts of varying work, from stock taking to events organising, from keeping the users happy to getting new ones, constant cleaning, scrubbing, ironing, handling staff, getting very good at book keeping and really none of it has to do with the drinking of the beer or partying with the users.

This thing is known in our house as the hahn auf hahn zu illusion, you see it everywhere (one of our current favourites is the masterchef "little bistro gastro pub by the sea and before breakfast, I catch my own lobsters ..."!!!)

Building a website and getting paying users is a pathway and a business that demands a sackload of skills along the way.